Early,Nixdorf personal computer

From: Mark Firestone <nedry_at_mail.bedlambells.com>
Date: Fri Jul 11 05:38:00 2003

Heh. I have an MCSE, but I didn't go to no school to get it. No sir. I
bought the books (and did the job...)

I also set up SAMBA (and lots of other linux stuff, with no frigging
book... sigh...)

Back to my exploration of RSTS/E... anyone know how to make $notice.txt
print automatically at logon?

Take Care,

Mark

At 12:03 11/07/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Philip Pemberton wrote:
>
> > > "classic" and they have no clue what to do with it. These are the kids
> > > that are being turned out by the MS certification mills.
>Hmm.
>
>Also, dont underestimate current IT colleges. I am feeling more and
>more apalled at what they get taught there. JAVA is Programming,
>WinXP is "OS Design" (sometimes they divert to MacOS 9, it seems)
>and The PeeCee is Hardware Design & Engineering.
>
>I recently slapped one of those "teachers" in the face with an LK201
>(yes, it still works - the keyboard, that is) and threatened to take
>his place for a few months, and teach them REAL technology instead.
>
>Guess what? The dork NEVER had done any real programming, never had
>any serious exposure to OS design, and never even came CLOSE to a
>piece of open-guts hardware.....
>
>*SCARED MODE*
>
> > "This is our UNIX fileserver. It's running ..."
> > "Hey! You can't use UNIX systems on a Windows network! It'll break
> > everything!"
> > "Actually, it works perfectly. As I was saying, it's running SAMBA so
> we can
> > use it as a fileserver..."
> > "But it'll break everything!"
> > "Excuse me, I'm a fully qualified IT engineer with [n] years experience.
> > You're a newly-hired MCSE. Do you know anything about UNIX?"
> > "Uh, no, but.."
> > "Well, here's a set of UNIX books. Have a quick look through them
> (especially
> > the 'Ultimate SAMBA Reference') and tell me why 1,000 Windows 2000 systems
> > won't coexist with our $10,000 UNIX server."
> > "Uh....."
> >
> > Microsoft: Spreading misinformation about our competitors since the late
> > 1970s.
>I have been a fully certified MCSE, MCSD and MCSA since 1996. We were
>never taught that UNIX will bite NT systems or networks, just that it
>can be awkward to make them talk and/or work together. Which still holds
>true, although its getting better, thanks to efforts on both sides.
>
>And yes, I know "a bit" about UNIX and networking, too.
>
>This poor girl (only way I can describe her..) had bad teachers from a
>probably clueless school/training organization. See my note above on
>THOSE...
>
>The girl can still be rescued, and you did well: expose her to that
>"scary" (UNIX) stuff, and she'll learn and understand. And forget the
>crap her (bad) teachers forced her down the, uhh, ok, throat.
>
>Cheers,
> Fred

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