Help with question about web page access

From: Ashley Carder <wacarder_at_usit.net>
Date: Mon Aug 16 21:19:03 2004

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Sean 'Captain Napalm'
> Conner
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:03 PM
> To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Help with question about web page access
>
>
> It was thus said that the Great Ashley Carder once stated:
> >
> > About a year and a half ago, one of my higher volume sites (50,000 hits
> > per day, I think) showed that 95% of all users were Internet Explorer
> > and about 2 or 3 percent were Netscape. I still had to support
> Netscape,
> > though, and our staff spent many hours coding things so that web sites
> > would remain Netscape friendly.
>
> I would double check the hit patterns.

It may have been 2 years or more ago. I do recall that Netscape numbers
just seemed to go down, down, down as IE got more and more of the user base.

> My own experience with
> Netscape 4
> counters yours. One site I just checked (for 12th of August) received
> 22,000 hits that day (about half your site from 18 months ago). Checking
> for Mozilla/4 (Netscape 4x) and filtering out MSIE ended up with the
> following:
>
> 28 Mozilla/4.77 [en] (Win98; U)
> 16 Mozilla/4.76 [en] (PalmOS; U; WebPro3.0; Palm-Arz1)
> 2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)
>
> Granted, the site "works" better in MSIE, so on the assumption
> it wasn't a
> valid sample, I then used the logs from one of my own personal sites [1]
> that received 38,000 hits last month. The results there were:
>
> 945 Mozilla/4.0 compatible ZyBorg/1.0
> (wn-2.zyborg_at_looksmart.net; http://www.WISEnutbot.com)
> 669 Mozilla/4.08
> 109 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; grub-client-2.3)
> 28 Mozilla/4.0
> 23 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; grub-client-1.5.3; Crawl your
> own stuff with http://grub.org)
> 18 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible)
> 16 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)
> 12 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; grub-client-1.0.5; Crawl your
> own stuff with http://grub.org)
> 8 Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win98; I)
> 6 Mozilla/4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u)
> 6 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Win32; WinHttp.WinHttpRequest.5)
> 5 Mozilla/4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.39 i486; Nav)
> 4 Mozilla/4.75 [de] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
> 4 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; BorderManager 3.0)
> 3 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; grub-client-1.4.3; Crawl your
> own stuff with http://grub.org)
> 2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MS FrontPage 6.0)
> 1 Mozilla/4.78 [en] (Win95; U)
> 1 Mozilla/4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC)
> 1 Mozilla/4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
> 1 Mozilla/4.73 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (Win98; U)
> 1 Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
> 1 Mozilla/4.61 [en] (OS/2; U)
> 1 Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)
> 1 Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 2.0x; Windows 98)
> 1 Mozilla/4.0 compatible ZyBorg/1.0 Dead Link Checker
> (wn.dlc_at_looksmart.net; http://www.WISEnutbot.com)
> 1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Netcraft Web Server Survey)
> 1 Mozilla/4.0 (Windows NT 4.0)
> 1 Mozilla/4.0 (Exotic Crawler)
>
> So, about 31 true Netscape 4 users that I can tell, or about
> 0.08% of the
> users to my site. I think it's probably safe to ignore Netscape 4 for the
> most part.
>
> -spc (at least, in my case ... )
>
> [1] http://boston.conman.org
>
>
Received on Mon Aug 16 2004 - 21:19:03 BST

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