Help with question about web page access

From: Hans Franke <>
Date: Tue Aug 17 10:20:12 2004

Am 17 Aug 2004 10:38 meinte Jerome H. Fine:

> >Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> > Windows 98 is now six years old, and is really just a facelifted version
> > of Windows 95 - very nearly 10 years old. Win 98 is no longer supported
> > by Microsoft, so good luck patching for any vulnerabilities. You could
> > try using Windows 2000 - pretty much anything better than a PII-350 will
> > run it, if you've got enough memory (anything less than 256M is a waste of
> > time). As far as the browser is concerned, I thoroughly recommend
> > switching to Mozilla Firefox. Netscape 4.78 is possibly the most broken
> > web browser known to exist.
> Jerome Fine replies:

> Second, the ONLY reason I stay with Windows 98 SE is because
> Ersatz-11 runs correctly for me ONLY under Windows 98 SE.

Now that's an interesting reasoning .. even more, it makes
the Win98 a perfect on topic item *G* like that.

> As for Netscape, I have saved all my e-mails and news groups
> posts. Shifting to IE would be almost a disaster.

Serious, considere Mozilla. As for myself, I have been a
die hard Netscape 4.78 user until about half a year ago.
at that point I had to access some web sites which where
just pure crap (design wise) but needed for my work. So
I gave Mozilla a try (I didn't want to switch for IE).
And beside some minor details (The German translation is
made by some Austrian jokesters who put DE-AT - whatever
that is - as default language) I'm quite pleased by now.
Especialy the tabbed browsing got me. But most important
it is close enough to Netscape that the transition was

> > Without wishing to seem disrespectful or unpleasant, you are basically
> > complaining that your 1957 Morris Minor can't keep up with modern motorway
> > traffic.

> Actually, I would be quite happy to use a Morris Minor
> if the spare parts were available. I don't drive on highway
> often enough to matter!

Nobody is required to always drive high speed. Not even
on the autobahn. And a Morris Minor or a VW Beetle or
a 2CV is still a great car for every day.

> > > Because I ALWAYS run Netscape with cookies turned OFF,
> > > except when I am required to have cookies enabled to access the
> > > 2 web pages that I normally use, I often encountered the error
> > > page which listed Netscape 4.x as one of the required browsers.
> > Why? I've never understood this obsession with cookies. I mean, *why*?
> > So an advert banner site knows that the same computer visited it twice.
> > Big wow. Do you stop answering the doorbell in case it's a door-to-door
> > salesman? Well, you might, but it would break more things than it would
> > fix.

> From my point of view, except for the 2 bank sites I use
> because I am helping my son, I refuse to use any other
> sites where cookies are required. And more to the point,
> I set Netscape to notify me when the doorbell is being
> run even then. I just feel it is a good idea to know if the
> doorbell is being rung and then to answer it myself rather
> than allowing open door access, even to a web site that
> is likely more reputable than most. For all other sites,
> I just NEVER even listen when they ring the doorbell.

Now, here Mozilla is even better, it adds a finger print
sensor to your doorbell by giving you ways to manage them
and decide which site may set cookies on a site, and even
page specific setting.

> Actually, can you explain what advantage cookies provide?
> Is there something about cookies which they do which can't
> be done without cookies?????????????

It realy simplifies some site designs. Also keep in mind, it
needed Netscape to invent them :) Back when they started
to explore the ways of 'Webshops'.

I think by now, a switch from NS to Mozilla should be possible.
with your 750 PII and 98SE, you're perfectly within the specs.


VCF Europa 6.0 am 30.April und 01.Mai 2005 in Muenchen
Received on Tue Aug 17 2004 - 10:20:12 BST

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