I'm sorry to have to bother the whole list with this. I already wrote
to cctalk-owner and got no response whatever as far as I can tell; I
figured I'd let myself try the list, once, in the hope someone is
watching there but not at the -owner address.
It seems my subscription has been "disabled due to excessive bounces".
The mail saying so includes a token that I can supposedly send back to
reenable things, but it doesn't work, probably because the list
software (a) waited ten days after disabling before telling me anything
and (b) didn't generate a newly-valid token after waiting.
The last rejection (not bounce, no matter what the message thinks - I
don't accept-and-bounce except under very unusual circumstances) was
July 3rd (not the July 6th claimed by the message, unless later
attempts came through a different host), and I got no notification
until July 13th. I replied immediately and got told the token was
invalid (with a note that they're good for only three days). I sent
the whole mess off to cctalk-owner.
Just now, a week later, I got a second notice of disablement. It
included _the very same token_, despite it now being a week older. (It
still doesn't work.)
Today's notice of disablement and the response to my reenablement
attempt are quoted below, after my signature. Does anyone know what's
wrong here and whom I need to nudge to get it fixed? As I said, I've
already tried cctalk-owner. (Obviously, I won't see on-list replies
here; direct, or at least copy to me, would be needed for me to get
it.) I can dig up copies of last week's notice and response too, if
desired.
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---------------- Notice of disablement
> From cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org Tue Jul 20 09:45:01 2004
> Return-Path: <cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org>
> Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]])
> by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10201
> for mouse; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from huey.classiccmp.org (huey.classiccmp.org [209.145.140.36]) by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA via TCP with SMTP id "MVtBZN.GTXL.Mnd"; 20 Jul 2004 09:44:59 -0400 (EDT, 13:44:59 GMT)
> Received: from huey.classiccmp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6KE03bY051097
> for <mouse_at_rodents.montreal.qc.ca>; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:00:04 -0500 (CDT)
> (envelope-from cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> From: cctalk-request_at_classiccmp.org
> To: mouse_at_rodents.montreal.qc.ca
> Subject: confirm 93199cd740a4a110d65b18d1aea766bc9f292eaa
> Message-ID: <mailman.0.1090332000.51096.cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:00:00 -0500
> Precedence: bulk
> X-BeenThere: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
> List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk.classiccmp.org>
> X-List-Administrivia: yes
> Sender: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
> Errors-To: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
>
> Your membership in the mailing list cctalk has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 06-Jul-2004. You will not get any more messages from this list until
> you re-enable your membership. You will receive 1 more reminders like
> this before your membership in the list is deleted.
>
> To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
> (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/confirm/cctalk/93199cd740a4a110d65b18d1aea766bc9f292eaa
>
>
> You can also visit your membership page at
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/options/cctalk/mouse%40rodents.montreal.qc.ca
>
>
> On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
> as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a
> reminder, your membership password is
>
> ibegav
>
> If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner
> at
>
> cctalk-owner_at_classiccmp.org
>
---------------- Reenablement failure
> From cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org Tue Jul 20 12:00:17 2004
> Return-Path: <cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org>
> Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]])
> by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10831
> for mouse; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
> Received: from huey.classiccmp.org (huey.classiccmp.org [209.145.140.36]) by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA via TCP with SMTP id "MVtHQK.WpFS.NWZ"; 20 Jul 2004 12:00:15 -0400 (EDT, 16:00:15 GMT)
> Received: from huey.classiccmp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6KGFJbY051847
> for <mouse_at_rodents.montreal.qc.ca>; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:15:19 -0500 (CDT)
> (envelope-from cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org)
> Subject: The results of your email commands
> To: mouse_at_rodents.montreal.qc.ca
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1480259870=="
> Message-ID: <mailman.47.1090340118.134.cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:15:18 -0500
> Precedence: bulk
> X-BeenThere: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
> List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk.classiccmp.org>
> X-List-Administrivia: yes
> Sender: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
> Errors-To: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
>
> --===============1480259870==
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
> original message.
>
> - Results:
> Invalid confirmation string. Note that confirmation strings expire
> approximately 3 days after the initial subscription request. If your
> confirmation has expired, please try to re-submit your original request or
> message.
>
> - Done.
>
>
> --===============1480259870==
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> MIME-Version: 1.0
>
> Received: from Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA
> (IDENT:3T62LyXsC2CAW00OL1WHkXx6cGXL9C1WOBnI9DZLNQ5_at_Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA
> [216.46.5.7])
> by huey.classiccmp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6KGFHbY051843
> for <cctalk-request_at_classiccmp.org>;
> Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:15:17 -0500 (CDT)
> (envelope-from mouse_at_Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA)
> Received: (from mouse_at_localhost)
> by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10796;
> Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:58:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: der Mouse <mouse_at_Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
> Message-Id: <200407201558.LAA10796_at_Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Erik-Conspiracy: There is no Conspiracy - and if there were I wouldn't be
> part of it anyway.
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
> To: cctalk-request_at_classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: confirm 93199cd740a4a110d65b18d1aea766bc9f292eaa
> In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1090332000.51096.cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> References: <mailman.0.1090332000.51096.cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
>
>
> --===============1480259870==--
>
Received on Tue Jul 20 2004 - 11:02:52 BST