8" floppy project

From: Ethan Dicks <dickset_at_amanda.spole.gov>
Date: Tue Jul 27 23:07:54 2004

On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:46:49PM -0500, Doc Shipley wrote:
> Bottom line requirement is that I be able to low-level format an 8"
> floppy to RX02 format. IIRC, RT-11 can flip the switch from RX01 to
> RX02 in an RX02 drive, right?

Yes. So can OS/8. The "flip" is when an RX02 drive re-writes part of
the sector to double density. That's what makes them so hard to read
on non-DEC hardware - the media becomes both single and double density.

Both RX01 and RX02 disks start off with "Industry Standard" IBM-compatible
low-level formatting, AFAIK. There are third-party DEC-compatible drives
that can take an absolutely blank disk and lay down tracks. I would think
a suitable CP/M system could do the same. Post-1982 hardware is where
things start to get tricky.

> And I need to be able to accurately copy a bootable RX02 diskette to
> a formatted blank.

In terms of development and set-up time, I would think a PDP-11 would
be the fastest way to just dup floppies.

> I'd *like* to be able to take a disk image of a floppy as a file, and
> to write that back out to floppy, but that's gravy.

That's trivial with a VAX (BACKUP/PHYSICAL). There must be a way with
smaller hardware (2BSD on a PDP-11, perhaps?)

I wonder what it would take to hook a real RX02 up to modern hardware. The
interface isn't complicated, but AFAIK, it would take more than a PeeCee
parallel port to drive it. Similar to hooking up a real Commodore 1541
to a modern machine and siphoning off a physical backup...

-ethan

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