a classiccmp electronics project?

From: Joe R. <rigdonj_at_cfl.rr.com>
Date: Sat Jul 31 21:55:40 2004

At 11:17 AM 7/31/04 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj_at_cfl.rr.com>
>> For one thing the parts used in the HP 1000 are 25 to 35 nS parts. Also
>> the enable and other control lines are very different so you'd need a fair
>> amount of glue chips and probably a buffer.
>
>> >(I don't know the specs for the bipolar ROMs being replaced. Someone
>> >earlier said they were 50-60ns. I am assuming they were also fairly
>small
>> >(logically, if not physically) compared to a 27c256.)
>>
>> The ones in the HP 1000 are 4 x 256 and are sixteen or eighteen (I
>> forget which) pin .3" wide DIPs. Al has pins out for some of the different
>> BiPolar PROMs on his site. I think they're under the games machines
>> section.
>
>OK, that helps a lot to get me on the same page.
>
>Can you use the 74S571? Those appear to still be available from JameCo
>(part #48910) at 35ns address-to-data, 25ns enable-to-data. They are 512x4
>16 pin DIPs. $5.69 qty 1, $5.49 qty 10. Haven't found them elsewhere,
>though.


   Bob Shannon has ordered these and gotten them so I'm wondering why all
the sudden interest in using EPROMs or SRAMs. But I thought I'd let the
discussion continue and see what developes. From what Bob told me he
orders one specific part but Jameco sends him several different brands.
They're supposed to be equivilent but apparently that's only in read mode.
They are programmed differently and he's had both good and bad luck
programming them.


      Joe



>
>Not knowing what I am looking for, I wasn't able to find the pinouts on Al's
>site, however. Can you provide a pointer or at least a part number?
>
>> There's no room for a duaghterboard to mount on the HP 1000 card.
>> You'd have to mount it elsewhere and cable over to it.
>
>Wouldn't that cost you a few nanoseconds just in the cabling? ISTR cable
>delays measured in ns/ft.
>
>Thanks!
>
> Vince
>
>
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