From: Enrico Tedeschi <>
Date: Sat Apr 11 20:01:46 1998

It is not what you think:

1) he sent the wrong computer ad I CLEARLY SPECIFIED that I wanted the VERY
FIRST TRS-80 model ever made and he knows this and that is why he is so
vehement in his replies.

2) he said that he sent his parcel at the same time I did, but he did not send
it until he got mine and even that took some convincement from me (he
strangely could not find any receipt of his sent parcel and not even a receipt
for the complaint he says he logged with the Post Office: what a
coincidence!). To conceal this he told me that he had the parcel returned from
the Post office but I can prove that he only packed it AFTER he received mine
(he even used MY PACKING to send his computer to me and he even went into
great lenghts to build himself same sort of alibi by enclosing inside a letter
pre-dated at the time of our agreement but the post office date on the package
gave away his lies).
I have kept the owner of the list informed at all times and he can vouch for
all this and I keep all the proves including his e-mails which say that he was
happy with the computer I sent and he was thanking me while now, in the
tentative to divert the matter away from him he says that the computer I sent
does not work and he is not happy with it.

3)The computer he sent is a wreck with a broken case, bits missing etc.

He is a CONMAN and he knows it and that is why he is refusing to discuss the
matter. I even offered to pay again to dispatch for the right computer as it
would be uneconomical for me and for him to return both the computers back to
the source (I spend more than ?40.00 to send mine).

There you are. I hope I have explained myself. This is not a private matter
anymore: if he is so determined to con somebody who, he thinks that being so
far away, cannot rehiterate, he might then decide to step up his career and
strike locally.

Thank you for your interest anyway.



Frank McConnell wrote:
> Enrico Tedeschi <> wrote:
> >I can't believe that all this is happening and that there are no honest people
> >in this list that are letting this happen withour saying anything.
> OK Enrico, you asked for it. I'm going to say something.
> The recollection I have of what happened (from reading the original
> flamefest on the list) is that you and Cord were swapping computers,
> with you expecting a TRS-80 with Level I BASIC. And that is what you
> got, only when you got it you found that it had a numeric keypad,
> unlike the original stock TRS-80., I don't understand what
> you're so upset about, except that you got something that didn't look
> like what you expected based on your preconceived notions of what a
> "TRS-80 with Level I BASIC" should look like.
> Well, as it happens I don't know whether Radio Shack ever took to
> manufacturing all Model 1 TRS-80s with numeric keypads after some
> date, or whether the numeric keypad was included with the Level II
> BASIC upgrade (don't think so, at least not always), or whether it was
> available without a Level II BASIC upgrade. So I'd have been
> surprised by that keypad too, but for all I know it could have come
> from the factory like that or been upgraded by its original owner, who
> wanted to do lots of numeric data entry on a Level I BASIC system.
> Really I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here, namely
> when trading in old computers it's a good idea to do some research and
> have some idea what the scope of possible configurations is, so that
> if you are buying you will have some idea what sort of questions to
> ask to find out just what the seller is selling. Or if you are
> selling, so you will have some idea of what you are selling.
> Don't count on the seller knowing what's important to you, or even
> where what he's got fits in that scope of configurations -- he may
> not. Even if he's another computer collector and/or familiar with
> that manufacturer's equipment, he may not know -- the sorts of
> questions I read (and even some of those I write) tell me that most of
> us have a lot to learn about these old machines, and none of us know
> everything about all of them.
> And even with all that in mind, expect some surprises!
> For example, a while back I bought a couple of HP 9825s from some guy
> in Southern California. Looking at the HP Calculator Museum web pages
> and some of my old HP test/measurement catalogs, I expected that one
> of them (the 9825B I think) would have a "computer" keyboard with
> full-travel keys. I didn't bother asking. Surprise, when it arrived
> both had the older clicky desktop-calculator keyboard of the 9825A. I
> pointed this out to the seller and he didn't know, though he has seen
> 9825s with the full-travel keys. Maybe it was an A that got
> field-upgraded to a B? We don't know, and I didn't really see any
> point in getting bent out of shape about it -- I got what I wanted,
> learned something, and now I have a good excuse to get another one!
> -Frank McConnell

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