Military Computer Books (Waz: Off-topic...)

From: Brett <>
Date: Thu Jan 29 21:51:18 1998

On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Joe wrote:

> RE: Military course books,
> I don't know about the Navy but when I was in the USAF you could order
> the manuals for any course that they tought. This was free to anyone on
> active duty and I *think* to retirees. If you know anyone in the military,
> have them contact the base education office and see what's avilable. You
> may even be able to get them from the US Government printing office. Tech
> manuals were available from them for many years, but I don't know if they
> still are.
> Joe

Joe I think you are right - any item that is/has been declassified should
be available from the GPO. However - we better watch our step as this is
a clip from email I received from the Sam Ismail about information like

Once again, you've perpetuated off-topic non-sense thus proving you are as
much an ass as you have ever been.

> Awww gee - And I got a great personal achievemant story about the early
> Navy training that I can't tell - Darn!

I really would not want to hear your sordid shower stall tales.

Now post something relevant or just fall into the background and stay
quiet like the good little nerd you've been in the last few months.

So apparently Sam has a few problems to resolve and the list ,as a whole,
and others as individuals, have to suffer through the time it takes for
Sam to get his act together.

Other than the above, I have had no problems with anyone on the list.
And I am saddened that I still can not tell my story. Until such time
as some more old Navy equipment gets to be declassified, something that
has never happened in the *specific area* of my training, I must remain
silent about it 8-(

However, as I was held over at T.I. (Treasure Island Navy Training Center)
to participate in and critique the very first Digital Techniques Class
given at T.I. (late 1970) I have to agree that *most* training manuals are
pretty bad! The majority are extremely good at presenting the facts but
leave it up to the trainer to figure out how to get them into the
students. Some of my most used books are on microwave transmission lines
and waveguides. After the class, the three of us that were to critique the
course, saw the new manuals and reviewed then in two weeks. Record turn
around for the Government 8-) The base attempted to hold on to all three
of us for instructors - however - we were all slotted to go to Vallejo
after finishing Radar training. Somehow, at the time, you had to
understand radar before they let you do Data or Crypto 8-/ Something about
pulses 8-)

I will say that the Air Force did seem to have better manuals than the
Navy and Army. I think they still do. As a side note - there used to
be some GREAT surplus stores in San Francisco - saw my only wire recorder
there as well as some interesting radar equipment, that at the time, I
thought was still classifed. Years later (88) I couldn't find them.
Anybody know what happened to them? I think they were on Market street
or maybe on the the one south of it I don't remember anymore 8-(

Received on Thu Jan 29 1998 - 21:51:18 GMT

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