[bcw_at_u.washington.edu: Re: Apology, Info, Etc...]

From: Wirehead Prime <wirehead_at_retrocomputing.com>
Date: Wed Mar 18 22:45:59 1998

There is nothing that bugs me worse than being right. I've been saying
for two days that Sam had malicious intentions and wanted to bring them
to bear by wresting control of the group. Apparently, he's managed to
snow Bill into believing he's capable of managing a list. Sam is not,
shall we say, a people person.

People called me paranoid. The whole time he's been insulting, harassing
and attacking people he KNEW that he'd soon have control of the list so
that he could kick people he didn't like off the list or abuse them in
other ways. IE he was provoking the fight so he could weed out who he'd
soon have the power to get rid of.

I can't find words to express how disturbing and disappointing this turn
of events is. Just when I thought things could get back to normal...just
when I'd decided that Sam wasn't worth my time and I'd be able to talk to
my friends here for a long time to come...I discover that Sam's been
sitting there the whole time planning to take vengeance on anyone who's
ever questioned his ill-gotten authority. But instead of back to normal
I find that it's going to rise to new heights of bizarre.

You know how you detect someone with evil intentions? They stab you in
the back and then they come around and stab you in the front and then say
it was all your own fault.

Anthony Clifton - Wirehead


On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, J. Maynard Gelinas wrote:

>
> Folks I just received this in private email from Bill
> Whitson. I rarely break rules of privacy like this, but the
> information here affects _so_ many people. Depending on what happens
> I may unsubscribe from this list. I want everyone to know that I've
> learned some wonderful things here and feel I've 'met' some amazing
> players in the high technology arena. May we meet again!
>
> Take Care,
> J. Maynard Gelinas
>
>
> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:03:57 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
> From: Bill Whitson <bcw_at_u.washington.edu>
> To: "J. Maynard Gelinas" <jmg_at_iac.net>
> Subject: Re: Apology, Info, Etc...
>
> Hi.
>
> I'm currently working with Sam Ismail on this. He may have
> the capability to run the whole listserv. I'm sure he will
> bring the list up to date as soon as he knows.
>
> Thanks for the offer. Depending on what happens with Sam,
> I may take you up on it.
>
> - --------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Whitson bcw_at_u.washington.edu
> Network Administrator (425) 352-5209
> University of Washington - Bothell Help Desk: 2-5275
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, J. Maynard Gelinas wrote:
>
> jmg-> OK,
> jmg-> I've received significant help from list members here in the
> jmg->past, and _really_ don't want to see it disappear. I understand how
> jmg->family pressures make the sustained effort of mail list maintenance
> jmg->sometimes an impossibility (Hey, I ran a BBS for four years in the
> jmg->80's like most of us here). So, I offer to take on list management
> jmg->_if necessary_. I'm perfectly happy to share these responsibilities
> jmg->with other members as well. In fact, if a whole bunch of other people
> jmg->chime up and want to take on the task, I'll _gladly_ bow out! ;-)
> jmg->
> jmg-> But I'd rather take on the headache of being the list
> jmg->maintainer than see classiccmp die out from bickering and off topic
> jmg->posts because of ineffective list maintenance. Bill, you started a
> jmg->wonderful thing, but I think, at least right now, we need heavier
> jmg->moderation.
> jmg->
> jmg-> There are a few other folks I'd rather see in the drivers seat
> jmg->before me. Tim Shoppa and Allison, for example, would both make
> jmg->better choices than I (and if you guys want it, I'm outta your way).
> jmg->However, this is _an_ offer; currently no one else seems to have
> jmg->chimed up.
> jmg->
> jmg-> I can arrange to have a Majordomo or Listproc list manager in
> jmg->place at one of several hosts if necessary, but I think it would be to
> jmg->everyone's benefit if the 'classiccmp' address remained the same. I
> jmg->hope I haven't overstepped my bounds here...
> jmg->
> jmg->Respectfully,
> jmg->J. Maynard Gelinas
> jmg->
> jmg->
> jmg->> Hi all.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> It's come to my attention that there's some discussion on
> jmg->> classiccmp regarding the administration of the list. I'll
> jmg->> get back to those that have contacted me asap. I haven't
> jmg->> read the list in months and only do basic addition and
> jmg->> removal of addresses at this point. My work and personal
> jmg->> lives have made it impossible to be any more active with
> jmg->> classiccmp.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> I encourage you to organize as you desire, by whatever
> jmg->> means you can agree on if you haven't already done so.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> I will continue to do basic list maintenance as much
> jmg->> as I'm available.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> Please don't count on me for anything at this point. I
> jmg->> think classiccmp is great and I'm glad to have done the
> jmg->> initial arrangements, but I don't even know when I'll
> jmg->> have the time to just read it again.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> If current arrangements are unworkable and someone else
> jmg->> would like to take over with their own listserv, it would
> jmg->> be simple to just transfer the subscription list, I think.
> jmg->> If you can live with the current level of administration,
> jmg->> I have no problem continuing to host the listserv.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> Sorry to have let you guys hang - I've been meaning to
> jmg->> make a post of this nature for some time and it never
> jmg->> made it high enough up the priorities list.
> jmg->>
> jmg->> --------------------------------------------------------
> jmg->> Bill Whitson bcw_at_u.washington.edu
> jmg->> Network Administrator (425) 352-5209
> jmg->> University of Washington - Bothell Help Desk: 2-5275
> jmg->>
> jmg->>
> jmg->>
> jmg->
> ------- End of forwarded message -------
>
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