LET'S RESOLVE THIS ISSUE was (Re: Made a deal to get a Vax 6000,2 Fujitsu Supercomputers and TOPS10???)

From: Rodrigo Ventura <yoda_at_isr.ist.utl.pt>
Date: Thu Nov 25 04:31:21 1999

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Erlacher <edick_at_idcomm.com> writes:

    Richard> This is starting to resemble an argument for putting
    Richard> things on eBay before scrapping them. If they're
    Richard> priceless, then someone will at least attempt to buy them
    Richard> for somewhat less than that implies.

        The "priceless" stuff was an illustrating metaphor. I didn't
say minis are priceless. Usually the "price" of a good is determined
by the demand/offer situation of the market. Minis are cheap because
the demand is so low: isolated collectors, when they have space to
store it. These collective market is so dispersed that does not affect
the market prices.

        But smart scrappers can be smart enought to bargain higher
prices, when they are certain they are facing collectors. Take for
instance antiques: they are expensive just because of the high demand,
it's fashionable to have antiques. And who knows, sometime in the
future, a VAX board becomes an expensive antique... In fact, some
computing stuff is almost "priceless", for instance, ENIAC
boards. Would you scrap an originl ENIAC the way you scrap Fujitsu
minis? No you would not, unless you were brainless... Any computer as
old as the ENIAC is a priceless asset to any museum! Right?

    Richard> If nobody wants 'em badly enough to pay the packing,
    Richard> shipping, and associated costs, plus the scrap value
    Richard> then, since it's too late to leave 'em inthe scrapyard,
    Richard> they need to be disposed of in some way, don't they?

        Yes indeed. It's not trivial to ship huge minis across the
world. That's one reason why these mailing lists exist: e.g. to
announce the availability of certain stuff in certain areas. I'd love
to have a PDP or a VAX, but I know that's virtually impossible unless
they appear in Lisbon/portugal area...


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