Interestingly, my reply to this message was rejected by the original sender
and consigned to the monkeys.com blackhole list. A Kaspersky schill ?
Even tho you're paranoid doesn't mean that the bastards aren't out to get
you.
lawrence
> I've done the Vulcan neck pinch (love the terminology :^) ) many times to see
> what was running that could be using all this memory. Ending tasks freed up
> miniscule amounts of memory according to "tweak-all" and using the free memory
> module in tweak-all brought me back to what should be expected, considering the
> apps I was using.
>
> > At 07:52 PM 8/2/02 -0500, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> > > It seems that I did not escape Klez.
> >
> > When your system is running, use the vulcan neck pinch (Control-Alt-Del). Is
> > there anything running with program name wink* (wink plus some random
> > digits.)? Are there any files found when you do "dir/a
> > c:\windows\system\wink*.exe" ? If not, you probably don't have Klez. Your
> > posting here was made using Pegasus, which does not open the Klez virus when
> > you open an e-mail message. You would have had to execute the attachment.
> >
> One of the first things I did was check for files with "wink" in their title as
> suggested in the various AV suggestions.
>
> > When you run the Klez cleaner, did you run it from Safe Mode? That's
> > the safest way to remove it; you can also follow the manual removal
> > process at
> > <http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.h_at_mm.html>.
> >
> I used the Mcaffee remover as per suggestions in the read me file that urged
> you to do it this way, but not with the clrav.com file from Kaspersky. > Note
> that Klez often comes shipped with the Elkern virus - that > disables most
> antivirus software. > > >I have had a continuous memory drain > >since stupidly
> opening the first msg. in HTML and memory resources drain > >eventually freeze
> my computer. I come up clean with both the Symantic and > >Kaspersky removal
> tools however. One of the spoofed messages with R.E.s > >return path was from
> Allison warning about klez and recommending the > >Kaspersky Klez removal tool.
> I'd never heard about Kaspersky before. > >Makes > >me seriously wonder about
> these AV companies. Create a problem and then > >sell a solution. > > What
> evidence do you have that an antivirus company is responsible for > creating the
> Klez problem? Or any other virus? > -Rick >
> It may be simply paranoia, but the fact that the spoofed file from AJP
> {Allison) had a recommendation to use the Kaspersky Klez removal tool
> makes me wonder why the beast would suggest it's own demise.
>
> Somewhere I can also remember an advisory that AV programs encourage
> sloppy procedures and should be done without. Not to mention the size of
> some of the latest programs. 81 Megs for the latest flavor ? Give me a break.
>
> This is either BS marketing or incredibly sloppy. wasteful programming.
> " Ah, the jerks will either grab the cheap ram available or get a multi-gig new
> hard drive" "I want to have a good weekend so what do I care how the dweebs
> handle it".
>
> Why I prefer older equipment. Or UYA with MS "computer advances"
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
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Received on Sat Aug 03 2002 - 04:15:01 BST