On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Hans Franke wrote:
> Shure... just your reasoning changed ... let's just assume
> you're better informed now.
Nope, the hobby changed. My reasoning is, as always, based on reasoned
analysis.
> > Yes, around 30, but considering that everyone in the world wants one, and
> > they regularly fetch more than $15K when they do come up for sale
> > (with some RARE exceptions noted),
>
> I still could bite my ass for one of these I didn't take...
I'd like to see that :)
> > The Lisa 1's are no different. There are even LESS of those than
> > Apple-1's in the known universe.
>
> Now, I realy doubt that. For one there have been way more
> Lisa 1s than Apple 1s been made, while the offer was similar.
I would agree, which is why I have been saying "known". But, until those
machines materialize, the fact is that there are less KNOWN Lisa 1's in
existence than Apple-1's. I would not doubt that there are more out
there (and would be willing to accept that there are many more), but until
they come forward, we can only go off of what is known.
> In contrast, who payed 700 bucks in 1976 for an A1, was more
> than happy to accept the trade in offer for a way more powerfull
> computer. So if about 5% of all Apple 1s have survived, it'll
> save to assume the same number for Lisa 1s ... so than 100 must
> exist...
Sure, I can agree with that in general. But where are they? And if you
just spent $10,000 on a computer that had crappy disk drives that failed
most of the time, and Apple was offering you a FREE upgrade (the Apple-1
deal was TWO Apple-1 boards for ONE Apple ][) then wouldn't human nature
dictate that such an offer would be taken by most people (where "most"
means ">98%")? So your number may well be inflated.
First, we need to know how many original Lisa's sold before we can start
speculating.
> > And there are 1,000,000 screaming Mac
> > fans who would sell their mother's kidneys for one.
>
> Now, should this be telling me that there are a lot of
> Mac-Fanatics with a less than satisfying childhood and
> anger against teir mother or what :)
No, it tells you how fanatical Macintosh people can be ;)
> BTW: Good Morning
Go to sleep!
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