> > Shure... just your reasoning changed ... let's just assume
> > you're better informed now.
> Nope, the hobby changed. My reasoning is, as always, based on reasoned
> analysis.
To me it feels like the first day.
> > > Yes, around 30, but considering that everyone in the world wants one, and
> > > they regularly fetch more than $15K when they do come up for sale
> > > (with some RARE exceptions noted),
> > I still could bite my ass for one of these I didn't take...
> I'd like to see that :)
Yeah, right, don't remind me.
> > > The Lisa 1's are no different. There are even LESS of those than
> > > Apple-1's in the known universe.
> > Now, I realy doubt that. For one there have been way more
> > Lisa 1s than Apple 1s been made, while the offer was similar.
> I would agree, which is why I have been saying "known". But, until those
> machines materialize, the fact is that there are less KNOWN Lisa 1's in
> existence than Apple-1's. I would not doubt that there are more out
> there (and would be willing to accept that there are many more), but until
> they come forward, we can only go off of what is known.
Which is rather in favor for unnatural high prices.
> > In contrast, who payed 700 bucks in 1976 for an A1, was more
> > than happy to accept the trade in offer for a way more powerfull
> > computer. So if about 5% of all Apple 1s have survived, it'll
> > save to assume the same number for Lisa 1s ... so than 100 must
> > exist...
> Sure, I can agree with that in general. But where are they? And if you
> just spent $10,000 on a computer that had crappy disk drives that failed
> most of the time, and Apple was offering you a FREE upgrade (the Apple-1
> deal was TWO Apple-1 boards for ONE Apple ][) then wouldn't human nature
> dictate that such an offer would be taken by most people (where "most"
> means ">98%")? So your number may well be inflated.
The same I'd say for Apple 1s.. he who got an Apple 1 and could get
an A2 with just a few bucks more would have done so.
> First, we need to know how many original Lisa's sold before we can start
> speculating.
Agreed.
> > > And there are 1,000,000 screaming Mac
> > > fans who would sell their mother's kidneys for one.
> > Now, should this be telling me that there are a lot of
> > Mac-Fanatics with a less than satisfying childhood and
> > anger against teir mother or what :)
> No, it tells you how fanatical Macintosh people can be ;)
Oh oh.
> > BTW: Good Morning
> Go to sleep!
Still at work.
Gruss
H.
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