Holy cow...

From: Joe R. <rigdonj_at_cfl.rr.com>
Date: Fri Aug 6 22:38:38 2004

At 08:59 PM 8/6/04 -0400, Steve wrote:
>eyeglass screwdrivers and even nail files were taken off the list later
last year.

  I'm glad to hear that. But they shouldn't have been on the list to begin
with! That's one of my points, airport security is nothing but a show to
make the public think the government is actually doing somehting about
security. But all too much of it is meaningless and useless measures such
as this. Eyeglass screwderivers and nail files have never been a threat to
an airliner that I know of! BTW metal toothpicks ARE still on the list of
"weapons". Can you tell me exactly how many airliners have been hijacked
with a toothpick?

> The people that are there are doing their job and are not given the
ability to make decisions and exceptions on their own. People making
>exceptions and doing their own security thing on 9/11 resulted in
thousands of dead people.

   WRONG! The airport security people did exactly what they were supposed
to do according to the rules at that time. The 9/11 commishion found where
many mistakes were made, particularly in the intelligence area but to my
knowledge they found no procedural errors in what security did. They
actually found that some security people were suspious of the hijackers but
allowed them to board the planes because they were NOT allowed to use their
own judgement and had to follow fixed idiocic rules.

>Sure, the borders need to be protected better, but at least a person
running into the side of a building will only give the person a headache.

  Wait a minute! What's this crap about running into buildings? Why don't
you stay on topic? A number of the 9/11 hijackers came over from Canada the
day before they hijacked the airliners on 9/11 yet you dismiss border
security my merely saying that the borders need to be better protected and
then jump to some totally irrelevent rambling about people running into
buildings. Our borders should be our first line of defense against
terrorism but they're wide open to even the most illiterate Mexican peasant
to simply walk across. It's a good thing that Alqueda doesn't wise up and
simply walk in 10,000 or so terrorists across the Canadian or Mexican borders.

>Of course, I would suppsoe that he would sue the buiding manufacturer and
win because there is no sign warning someone of getting hurt if they >do
>As for missing badges, most security systems require the badge and an ID
code to enter, so just having a badge doesn't help much unless security is
already lax at the airport. People are to badge in, enter their code, and
then close the door so the next person does the same procedure.

   That's another thing that found, people letting other people through the
doors and in some cases blocking them open and leaving them standing wide
open for anybody that came along. In addition, they've found that there
are 100s of missing airlines uniforms and a whole hosts of other security
problems. They've also found a high number of convicted felons working
there because the airports were lax about getting background checks. Like I
said, hardly a week goes by with some new revalation about problems at the

>If Miami is ruuning that badly then there is a good problem to start with.

  Miami running badly is an understatement! It's been that way for a LONG
time and for some reason they can't seem to straighten it out. Too many
airport operators looking to pince pennies, minoritie rights, unions,
underpaid employees and other specail interest I suppose but that still
doesn't excuse the smoke and mirrors approach to security that the
government is using. Inspecting every airline passenger three and four
times before he gets on a plane isn't going to do much good when you have
drug addicts, ex-criminals and thieves working in the ground crews and wide
open access for nearly anyone that wants to get on or to an aircraft while
it's sitting on the ground.


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