If you're able to get into 1,2 you can do whatever you want. I don't know
what
kinds of changes happened from v7 to v9, but you should be able to do
anything
you need to do if you're on 1,2 (except POKE, which you can only do from
1,1).
For example, if you can break the startup sequence and get a READY prompt
while logged into 1,2, you can do
UT CHANGE [1,2] xxxxxx
where xxxxxx is the new password for 1,2. Unless $MONEY was changed
between v7 and v9, you should also be able to print passwords from 1,2.
The passwords are stored in account [1,1], also known as the MFD (master
file directory). $MONEY uses SYS() function call SYS(CHR$(6%)+CHR$(14%))
to retrieve the accounting info, including passwords, from the MFD. You
could
also write a program to open [1,1] as a file and get all this info yourself,
bypassing
the SYS() call and going directly to the MFD. Of course, all of this would
require
you to be logged on as a privileged user (1,*).
All of my knowledge actually stops at RSTS V06C, but I have V7 running in
the
simulator and on a real PDP-11/34 and V7 seems to work pretty much the same
as the V6 systems that I used to live on day and night back in the late
1970s.
Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <pdp11_70_at_retrobbs.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: I'm stupider than you!! RSTS/E question
> That gets me into 1,2, and I can run money from [0,9], but it doesn't seem
> to matter if I tell money to print passwords or not, I still don't get
> passwords printing...
>
> Doesn't the system have to store the 1,2 password someplace so it can log
> into the account at startup?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> "But Schindler is bueno! Senior Burns is El Diablo!"
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Carder" <wacarder_at_usit.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:36 PM
> Subject: RE: I'm stupider than you!! RSTS/E question
>
>
> > Ok, I haven't used a RSTS after version 7.0, but assuming that it
> > didn't change much.....
> >
> > Start your system. When the startup process is going on, watch
> > for 1/2 to log on to do things like setting up the CCLs, defining
> > the KB speed, setting up logicals, adding run time systems,
> > starting ERRCPY, etc. Try to hit control-c while it is logged
> > onto 1,2. You may have to hit ^C *very quickly repeatedly* to
> > get it before it logs off. Once you stop the startup process,
> > then you can RUN $MONEY to find out what your password is.
> >
> > If things have changed considerably between v7 and v9, this
> > might not work.
> >
> > Ashley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org
> > [mailto:cctalk-bounces_at_classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Mark Firestone
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 5:35 AM
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > Subject: I'm stupider than you!! RSTS/E question
> >
> >
> > Ok, I've done something stupid. Really stupid.
> >
> > I'm almost afraid to post this, because you all will think I am stupid.
> >
> > I lost the 1,x password to my RSTS/E 9 system. I picked a strong
> password,
> > wrote it on a piece of paper, and put it on my desk. I strongly suspect
> > that it became part of a drawing one of my children did, you know, this
is
> > me, this is you, this is the house, and the chimney, that's your
password.
> >
> > Anyway, my PDP is a just-pretend simh type PDP (because it would be
> divorce
> > court if I installed a real one in my house...) and I have it all set up
> the
> > way I like it, with custom scripts and Dungeon and Adventure, so that
> people
> > can play these games on the internet via a bbs front end. Each user
gets
> > their own account... so they can save their games...
> >
> > ... it took a while to make this work. I'd rather not have to set it up
> > again. Is there any way to hack into my own box to recover my own
> password,
> > or is it time to mount the install "tapes" and start all over again?
> >
> > Damn!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > "But Schindler is bueno! Senior Burns is El Diablo!"
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Tradewars - telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
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> > IRC - irc.retrobbs.org #main
> > WIKI - http://www.tpoh.org/cgi-bin/tpoh-wiki
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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